description:
In Tokyo Godfathers, three homeless people – Gin, a former professional bicycle racer; Hana, a transvestite; and Miyuki, a run-away young girl – live together in Shinjuku, Tokyo. On Christmas Eve, the three discover a baby girl at a garbage dump. They head for the brighter parts of the city, where people are enjoying the holiday festivities, to look for the baby’s parents. While the three search for the parents, uncanny luck results in their meeting other people while their adventures with the baby continue. Will the baby lead these three protagonists to their destiny? This small adventure lets each of the trio confront their own lives, which they almost threw away, while maintaining their dignity and happiness under unfortunate circumstances.
info:
source: r1 dvd
resolution: 672×432 (anamorphic 799×432)
video codec: h264
audio codec: 5.1 ac3
audio languages: japanese
subtitles: english (ass, srt)
what’s changed from rev 1?
Comment by Anonymous — August 14, 2008 @ 5:14 am |
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your wonderful release!
We like your motif of ‘fansubbing’ (even though you mainly dvdrip).
Comment by Esente — August 17, 2008 @ 1:11 am |
timing, typesetting, video encoding. simply all.
the timing in rev1 was extremely ghetto, being almost non-modified from the dvd subtitles.
Comment by neo2sonic — September 1, 2008 @ 8:44 pm |
dude. this is way too grainy. I see that you have picked up motion compensated filtering, but you should mix in at least a removegrain(1) for such a ringy source not to mention easing up on your sharpener’s threshold for noise. I want my details in tact, not grain. in this case I can see plenty of dct artifacts around the edges despite the fact that there’s much grain to be smoothed away. it’s true that I criticized the overuse of spatial filtering in cowboy bebop, but deringing is a different matter. I can see the grain staying still as the camera pans– exactly the kind of noise-screen noise reduction is supposed to alleviate.
the answer to this is not “more moving noise.” it’s deringing and not over-sharpening. halos aren’t the only byproducts of over-filtering.
Comment by cestfait — September 4, 2008 @ 3:46 am |
well, i wasn’t expecting a comment from you on that.
anyway, without knowing the source, you shouldn’t pick on it too hard. the noise is added in this case, to hide the huge artifacts, the source has. and no, it’s not motion compensated filtering included. and no, the source has no details present in the first place, as the artifacts on the dvd cover them, including outlines. and yes, all the moving noise even comes from the dvd after filtering it.
and no again, removegrain is included.
and no, it’s not oversharpened. i still don’t do that in my scripts.
and yes, it looks worse, by not adding it.
deringing is used for ringing noise, not for grain. obviously from the size of the noise, you should be able to tell that it’s grain here.
thanks for the tips, i really didn’t need them. a simple pm in irc would have been easier to sort that issue out instead of guessing like stupid as you were pretty wrong about anything you guessed. ._.
i’m open to suggestions, but in case you should get ahold of the r1, i’m pretty sure you won’t have much of a better idea either to do magic out of crappy source like that. what do you expect from a below 4gb vob including a 5.1 audio track for a complete movie anyway.
neither your mvdegrain scripts i don’t use, nor tesa or esa you cherish so much, will change a thing (and yes, i tried them out).
thanks for the trolling anyhow, especially the cowboy bebop part was nice.
as i did not add any explanation why i released a rev2 from a crappy source in the first place though, one could guess that i considered rev1 outdated in every aspect, be it video-wise as well as subtitle-wise, which is why i bothered to replace it.
Comment by neo2sonic — September 4, 2008 @ 6:31 pm |
Even if you did add noise, there are ways (different x264 settings) you could have explored to maintain gradients without all of the extra ugliness, and at a similar bitrate to the one you used before. You can only have lost details amidst the noise.
However, I was in a bad mood yesterday, and I was wrong to poison your site with my mood. I should have been belligerent to your face, and I wish that my belligerence could have been better informed than it was. It was very inappropriate to take a glance and then write what I wrote. Here’s what was really underneath that misguided rage:
It seems that you see no reason to strive for better encodes now that you can provide enough quality to satisfy your audience. It seems to me, especially with regard to x264 settings, that you favor quicker encoding to better quality encoding. You can’t see the quality difference at a glance (although it is obvious that the method saves bits), so you write it off too quickly.
In any case, for those who are reading (although I hope all of this can be removed) I am very sorry for trolling. I am ashamed of myself.
Comment by cestfait — September 4, 2008 @ 9:47 pm |
it’s pretty wrong though to assume, that encoding is halfassed, when not using max settings in x264.
slowest settings never meant to be the best settings, and even if you regard it to be the truth after experimenting yourself, you are quite off to assume that everyone has to, as enough people are not convinced of it.
somebody using megui’s slowest profile would be a better encoder in your view than using settings, one tried out oneself.
what’s the point to use higher settings like tesa/esa argument of yours majorly, when one cannot even see less artifacts out of that, even if you argued so hard in the past about it.
so even with your second attempt, i see no less than trolling.
and you still miss the point, that the source has huge artifacts. it’s not about preserving gradients, it’s about huge block party being present from the start.
there’s no gain by letting x264 deal with the artifacts on its own, as it will make it worse automatically, which is the reason why i bypassed it with a little noise addition.
wish you would have minded to read up on what i wrote above instead of just trolling your way through and believing a below 4gb vob has no problems at all.
the whole commenting by you is pretty wrong, since you assume things automatically, while having not the slightest clue what we are dealing with here.
please get ahold of the r1 dvd, so we can stop the baseless argumenting.
Comment by neo2sonic — September 5, 2008 @ 3:03 am |
I’ve seen it. You did a decent job. The DVD could have been better mastered. You could have done better with it. You’re close-minded. End of story. Pretty sad that I am writing this. More sad if you reply.
Wow. That’s the meanest I’ve been in a while. I feel terrible, and I hope I never write anything like this again. But for you I must. Cheers!
Comment by cestfait — September 5, 2008 @ 4:05 am |
there’s a lot missing from this argument on both sides…
Comment by kikimasu — September 5, 2008 @ 5:56 am |
life goes on.
little sad though we couldn’t deal with it in a discussion over irc.
hit and run ain’t cool, neither here nor there.
Comment by neo2sonic — September 5, 2008 @ 3:59 pm |
p.s. you were right about umh search… ran some tests and got better compression with a less exhaustive algorithm.
I’m sorry about the hit and run, but to be honest I was quite afraid to talk to you in the state you were in– in the state I was in. as kikimasu says, neither of us was very articulate or even communicative.
the encoding goes on, at least. me with my methods, you with yours… *sigh* fighting sucks. another attempt at that r2 grave of the fireflies disc will be up soon. I don’t know about any attempts at reconciliation though… see ya around~~
Comment by cestfait — September 22, 2008 @ 7:05 am |
Cestfait, man the fuck up faggot.
Niizk, you kick ass MAH BOI!
Comment by Anonymous — June 4, 2009 @ 7:19 am |
Umm, apart from the little quarrel among Niizk and Cestfait, …
It was quite a while I wanted to see Tokyo Godfathers, I guess it’s around time :)
Comment by jhack89 — June 11, 2009 @ 12:39 am |